tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post4406382861861015146..comments2024-03-24T05:17:53.070-04:00Comments on Diary of a Mantua Maker: Cut-away Gown HistoryColeVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-84466908225379307332011-01-10T09:19:44.115-05:002011-01-10T09:19:44.115-05:00I think it depends on how accurate. I haven't...I think it depends on how accurate. I haven't seen velvet undersleeves, added collars, or that much black being used outside of mourning or a few odd regions. However, cotton and silk velvet was very popular. You see them especially on men's coat collars, and I have some on my riding habit based on an original description. If you're aiming for late 1780s or early 90s that collar style is becoming very common and it isn't unbelievable to be on a cut-away garment. Depending on where you're planning on wearing this, it should be fine and all "supportable" to a certain extent. A group of re-enactors might ask if you were in half mourning though, unless you live on the Continent.ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-87692960566068690542011-01-05T19:00:59.969-05:002011-01-05T19:00:59.969-05:00thank you! so what i have in mind is to do a cream...thank you! so what i have in mind is to do a creamy beige petticoat, the cutaway gown in black satin(with short sleeves of same fabric) and then the long under- sleeves in black velvet and a redingote type collar in black velvet, while having the central zone be the same fabric as the petticoat... does this seem to be accurate? thanks again, and your work is beautiful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-9557629337941463762011-01-02T12:29:11.506-05:002011-01-02T12:29:11.506-05:00I've never seen an example (outside of some ve...I've never seen an example (outside of some very artful portraits) of an 18th century gown where the bodice is a different fabric than the skirt. Petticoats can be contrasting, or in the case of a cut-away the central zone can be. There is one particular type of gown that last only a few years that had short sleeves with an long under-sleeve of contrast, but bodice and skirt are the same (as shown above). If you have some fabric you really want to use, perhaps make a jacket instead. You do see cut-away jackets in the 1780s and 90s.ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-51442365578272204762011-01-02T12:21:12.933-05:002011-01-02T12:21:12.933-05:00hi! i have a question, is it somewhat accurate to ...hi! i have a question, is it somewhat accurate to have the cutaway and skirt be in two different fabrics? for example, the cutaway bodice and sleeves in black velvet and then the skirt black satin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-3043519652677026432010-07-10T20:41:10.054-04:002010-07-10T20:41:10.054-04:00Thank you so much! That helps me a great deal... ...Thank you so much! That helps me a great deal... actually, your entire blog helps me a great deal.Katinkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05169470796036923592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-88853183149236612572010-07-08T10:26:58.254-04:002010-07-08T10:26:58.254-04:00It works the same way as a regular stomacher gown ...It works the same way as a regular stomacher gown from earlier in the century. The stomacher is made separately (in this case a triangle with a saggy bottom) and pinned to the stays. Some stomachers even have ribbon tabs out to the side for easy pinning if the fabric is difficult (like taffeta). The gown is then pinned over it. *Hint* pin horizontally. If you don't have the time, ability, or stays to be able to pin, you can cheat and whip one side to the gown and add hooks/eyes to the other. Not really accurate, but better than poking yourself with pins all night.ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-36407868308978968442010-07-08T01:39:07.889-04:002010-07-08T01:39:07.889-04:00I've always wondered about this, because I wou...I've always wondered about this, because I would love to one day model a dress after the one in the Fragonard painting you included... When you're not adding a split down the center of a zone-front, how does everything assemble? Is there a diamond-shaped stomacher? Or is it only attached at the very top and then pinned to stay in place where it nears the petticoat? Orrrr?<br /><br />(Yours turned out beautifully, by the way.)Katinkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05169470796036923592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-90365207209869499712009-05-16T15:06:00.000-04:002009-05-16T15:06:00.000-04:00Thanks so much! I keep telling my husband that I n...Thanks so much! I keep telling my husband that I need a maid. It hasn't happened yet :-DLaurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16860487428631923601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-86917421620579528302009-05-07T17:09:00.000-04:002009-05-07T17:09:00.000-04:00Right, it fastens with hooks and thread eyes (bar ...Right, it fastens with hooks and thread eyes (bar tacks done with a buttonhole stitch over them). Just like regular stomacher gowns you stitch the left side closed and fasten the right. Or be brave and use straight pins (it still takes me too long to hide them well, I guess I need a maid!).ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-87165927867085747492009-05-07T11:39:00.000-04:002009-05-07T11:39:00.000-04:00Question: On the first zone front drawing, the one...Question: On the first zone front drawing, the one that does not split away, how does the bodice connect? Is it with hooks and eyes along the edge? Thanks.Laurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16860487428631923601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-27925258913837953412009-01-08T07:30:00.000-05:002009-01-08T07:30:00.000-05:00I really love what you've created! I want to make ...I really love what you've created! I want to make something much like it in the future, maybe with two plain fabrics without pattern...<BR/>I'm mostly interested in the mid 18th century, but I love these designs from the 70's and 80's!<BR/>Right now I'm busy making the basics though - stays and such. And I've never hand sewn this much before so it's kind of consuming my life right now, hehe... ^^;<BR/><BR/>Great stuff you've got here anyways! Sure as heck gonna follow this blog! =DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-19253363976674656102009-01-05T22:45:00.000-05:002009-01-05T22:45:00.000-05:00Absolutely stunning! And so inspiring! I discovere...Absolutely stunning! And so inspiring! I discovered your blog today and have really enjoyed my browsing. I actually squealed with delight when I saw this frock - bravo! Thank you so much for sharing. :>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-58717176792835244322009-01-05T12:38:00.000-05:002009-01-05T12:38:00.000-05:00This is really, really, really amazingly gorgeous....This is really, really, really amazingly gorgeous. Wow.Kendrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15443641907078439193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-80459341037702520852009-01-05T11:57:00.000-05:002009-01-05T11:57:00.000-05:00Oh my goodness, your gown is stunning. Well done!...Oh my goodness, your gown is stunning. Well done!Silverstahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169559171464555792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-84706517571011314682008-12-21T22:57:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:57:00.000-05:00Congratulations on the engagement! -RachaelCongratulations on the engagement! <BR/><BR/>-RachaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-3696494599718104482008-12-15T15:40:00.000-05:002008-12-15T15:40:00.000-05:00Hi! Just wanted my followers to know that my new d...Hi! <BR/><BR/>Just wanted my followers to know that my new domain name is<BR/><BR/>mydecadeyear.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/>xoxoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-49882315397869796592008-12-15T04:47:00.000-05:002008-12-15T04:47:00.000-05:00By tyhe way, if you want to see what I did, I can ...By tyhe way, if you want to see what I did, I can add you to read my blog (in French but with pictures!) "Lisette la Cousette". Just give me your email... ;-)Élisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04009104955914546668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5813354351680599871.post-52662409315770669752008-12-15T04:44:00.000-05:002008-12-15T04:44:00.000-05:00So lovely!This is certainly my favorite style of t...So lovely!<BR/>This is certainly my favorite style of the 18th century...<BR/>Thank you for sharing!Élisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04009104955914546668noreply@blogger.com